@HorizonsTechnologies another thing to keep into consideration is the electrical consumption of the ion engine. better and easier to use it in the inner solar system because of the better efficiency of solar panels near the Sun to recharge batteries. The far you go, the bigger and more efficient the solar panels have to be.
@HorizonsTechnologies so, ion engine technology is fantastic, i equipped an interplanetary probe with 3 ion engines and travelled through the inner solar system to Venus (flyby), to Mars (entered orbit). obvioulsy the LEO insertion and the burn to escape gravity and put the craft on the correct path must be achieved with classic chemical combusion. however, once you are on the correct patch, through long duration burns (i mean lasting even 4-8 days or more) your aim is to modify your path in a way that when you enter in the target SOI your speeds almost match, and you need just a low energy ion burn to enter a long orbit. and then modify it to lower it or change plane. this tech requires a lot of patience.
have fun
What I'm finding most tricky is to trim in a realistic way fuel and oxidizer usage, water production, so that I load a realistic amount of elements that grant 14 or 20 days of mission
i believe i will resolve it using two sets of thrusters, one for rotation and one for translation, activated by two different activation groups and using pitch roll and yaw as inputs, maybe built one inside another so that they seem to be the same
@Zenithspeed
@ChaoticGraviton I love it because offer a complete panel of fuels/oxidizers and engine cycles (and still works) . However my question is valid also with stock engines and fuels
@plane918273645 i believe it would be the same with stock engines. if you wish to give it a try and hints i could produce the same configuration with stock tanks and engines...
@plane918273645 i guess i could go on adding sets of sliders reletad to AGs almost indefenitely, am i right?
BTW, where could i learn some vizzy stuffs? is it just a copy and/or try and fail/succeed process?
@plane918273645 I'm using it for the rover arm.
I have a last question. I'm now using Ag 15 Slider 1 2 3 for shoulder pitch, yaw and elbow, and Ag 16 Slider 1 and 2 for wrist pitch and yaw.
When i switch from 15 to 16 sliders perfectly reset to 0 to allow me to use 16 from idle position, and when i get back from 16 to 15 i find sliders perfectly in the position i left them. But when i deactivate 16 without going back to 15, sliders remain in 16 position without going back to 0, i suppose because there is not such a command written in Vizzy at the moment. What should i write in vizzy to let it do so?thanks for your time
@TronicOrbital i see. i'm not very familiar yet with Vizzy but i understand i should start...
but let's say i use vizzy to reconfigure a set of sliders for a job on a second set of jounts of a robotic arm the way you suggest me. when i get back to the first set, how can i tell vizzy to set the sliders back to the previous configuration, so that the arm don't start moving?
i was looking randomply for space related games on mobile, and i come up to SR2 mobile. then i discovered it had a PC counterpart, and then i dedicated to the PC version.
I was previously an Orbiter Space Sim addicted user, and after a long time i was looking for somthing a bit more "user-friendly".
@Pedro @Matteovir it seems to not recognize RealisticEngine overhaul no more.
all engines are re-converted to stock.
when loading it says "failed to load 16 parts modifiers of 1 distinct types. Paert modifier types: RocketEngine."
hi, thanks for this great update.
i'm experiencing a problem. It seems just with this new update that every rocket i built using MarioG's Realistic Engine Overhaul and AnotherFireFox's RealFuelTanks gives an error at loading, and thus the game changes automatically to other engine cycles or fuels. is it a known issue? i'm on PC. thanks
i too usually take inspiration from parts of existing rockets, and specs of real engine or solid rocket motors. when building a rocket i usually ask myself "what payload do i need to lift or send? how big? how much heavy" and then i start building the very basic of rocket, tanks and engines, then add RCS control, retrorockets, pipes and some aesthetical features.
Hi! nice job. Are you mounting also small retrorockets for staging?
controls of 1st stage on gimbals? second stage on gimbals+rcs or just gimbals? i believe rcs on 2nd stage are usefull to reorient the stage for 2nd or 3rd burn.
I'm quite sure that there are lots of interesting posts and discussion in the past. Allowing to search could avoid unusefull question that sometimes remain unanswered... And could lead to a less messy forum
it REALLY is epic.
can't wait to try your next update!!
@HyperPatch in the meantime i figured out how to modify ATMO parameters so that your Earth atmosphere extend to 115 km with a realistic air density through layers
@pedro16797
Hi and thanks for this awsome update!
i'm experiencing just this issue, that i don't know what it is related to.
as soon as i start a scenario with the rocket (even a stock rocket) sitting on the pad smoke starts pluming out from the pad the same as i was lifting off, but without any thrust or fuel consumption by the rocket. It seems like an animation related to the pad, that is starting by itself and mantaining...
do you have any idea?
thanks
@ALGEBRASpace
it is a beahviour i experienced too when docking crafts and modules in orbit, mainly when docking two capsules. I have not figured out how to solve it, beacuse in the last period i focused on interplanetary probe exploration. I'll give it a try and see to come back with an answer.
@NovaAerospace
Thanks!
Nice review!, i agree with you in every aspect. I used to play at KSP, but i definitely prefer SR2 because it allows to reproduce reality and new things; and i love the graphics!
@Insanity thanks for sharing your experience.
I prefer the "real experience" Always using RSS by HyperPatch, with the RealFuelTanks mod and RealOverhaulEngine mod
@YaMomzBox420 just to clarify how i solved this old-but-not-too-much issue. I found that just increasing the thrust of my engine is not a good and realistic solution. I'm now using an Hydrolox engine similar to RL10c of Centaur upper stage, wich has just 110 Kn of thrust, but is very efficient and reliable. The solution is that you cannot rely at all on the auto-burn function, so i ended up with hand calculation. Divide the residual burn time of your stage/remaninig deltaV of your stage; then multiply the result * the DV required for the calculated burn. The result will be the total duration of your burn. Divide it /2 and the result is the distance in seconds from the node of the burn, and the moment to start your burn. it is very precise, even for long burns for Earth-Mars transer.
c'mon please stop posting this spam.
+2 2.1 years ago@TronicOrbital i created an RTG, it can be customized, enlarged to obtain more enrgy for outer system exploration..
+1 2.0 years ago@HorizonsTechnologies another thing to keep into consideration is the electrical consumption of the ion engine. better and easier to use it in the inner solar system because of the better efficiency of solar panels near the Sun to recharge batteries. The far you go, the bigger and more efficient the solar panels have to be.
+1 2.0 years ago@HorizonsTechnologies so, ion engine technology is fantastic, i equipped an interplanetary probe with 3 ion engines and travelled through the inner solar system to Venus (flyby), to Mars (entered orbit). obvioulsy the LEO insertion and the burn to escape gravity and put the craft on the correct path must be achieved with classic chemical combusion. however, once you are on the correct patch, through long duration burns (i mean lasting even 4-8 days or more) your aim is to modify your path in a way that when you enter in the target SOI your speeds almost match, and you need just a low energy ion burn to enter a long orbit. and then modify it to lower it or change plane. this tech requires a lot of patience.
+1 2.0 years agohave fun
@BaconMann if you are using version 0.906 mods like RealEngineOverhaul and Real fuel tanks are still working.
+1 2.0 years agoLook in the Mods section
@plane918273645 i'm sorry, it was hard for me to explain...however you gave exactly the answer i was looking for... thanks a lot again
+1 2.0 years ago@TronicOrbital i tested your code and it behaves perfectly, exactly as i wanted. thanks a lot.
+1 2.1 years agoit is a very nice idea. Thanks!
+1 2.1 years ago@YaMomzBox420 I have a lot of fun with REO. I hope it will be available again for future versions.
2.0 years agoWhat I'm finding most tricky is to trim in a realistic way fuel and oxidizer usage, water production, so that I load a realistic amount of elements that grant 14 or 20 days of mission
2.0 years agosorry, 0.906
2.0 years agoi also use it.
2.0 years agoi noticed already that the MOD does not work with the new experimental.
For the moment i reverted back to the last stable version 0.910
i believe i will resolve it using two sets of thrusters, one for rotation and one for translation, activated by two different activation groups and using pitch roll and yaw as inputs, maybe built one inside another so that they seem to be the same
2.0 years ago@Zenithspeed
@Zenithspeed is it possible to give more inputs like Translate up+pitch?
2.0 years ago@plane918273645 still with mods. I'm sorry. Tomorrow I'll upload a stock model.
2.0 years ago@ChaoticGraviton I love it because offer a complete panel of fuels/oxidizers and engine cycles (and still works) . However my question is valid also with stock engines and fuels
2.0 years ago@plane918273645
here it is with stock engines in methalox configuration
test 2
2.0 years ago@plane918273645 i believe it would be the same with stock engines. if you wish to give it a try and hints i could produce the same configuration with stock tanks and engines...
2.0 years agoTest capsule with monoprop RCS
here it is
2.0 years ago@plane918273645 i guess i could go on adding sets of sliders reletad to AGs almost indefenitely, am i right?
2.0 years agoBTW, where could i learn some vizzy stuffs? is it just a copy and/or try and fail/succeed process?
Here N1 is a legacy rocket in a virtual simulation. Nothing to do with nowdays politics and events i believe...
2.0 years ago@plane918273645 I'm using it for the rover arm.
2.0 years agoI have a last question. I'm now using Ag 15 Slider 1 2 3 for shoulder pitch, yaw and elbow, and Ag 16 Slider 1 and 2 for wrist pitch and yaw.
When i switch from 15 to 16 sliders perfectly reset to 0 to allow me to use 16 from idle position, and when i get back from 16 to 15 i find sliders perfectly in the position i left them. But when i deactivate 16 without going back to 15, sliders remain in 16 position without going back to 0, i suppose because there is not such a command written in Vizzy at the moment. What should i write in vizzy to let it do so?thanks for your time
@plane918273645 wow! Thanks a lot! I'll deppky look into it. Really really appreciated
2.0 years ago@TronicOrbital i see. i'm not very familiar yet with Vizzy but i understand i should start...
2.0 years agobut let's say i use vizzy to reconfigure a set of sliders for a job on a second set of jounts of a robotic arm the way you suggest me. when i get back to the first set, how can i tell vizzy to set the sliders back to the previous configuration, so that the arm don't start moving?
i was looking randomply for space related games on mobile, and i come up to SR2 mobile. then i discovered it had a PC counterpart, and then i dedicated to the PC version.
2.1 years agoI was previously an Orbiter Space Sim addicted user, and after a long time i was looking for somthing a bit more "user-friendly".
Hi. the performance analyzer does not auto-update when i change engine parameters. i have to change the altitude to make it update.
2.1 years agoThanks
@Pedro @Matteovir it seems to not recognize RealisticEngine overhaul no more.
2.1 years agoall engines are re-converted to stock.
when loading it says "failed to load 16 parts modifiers of 1 distinct types. Paert modifier types: RocketEngine."
hi, thanks for this great update.
2.1 years agoi'm experiencing a problem. It seems just with this new update that every rocket i built using MarioG's Realistic Engine Overhaul and AnotherFireFox's RealFuelTanks gives an error at loading, and thus the game changes automatically to other engine cycles or fuels. is it a known issue? i'm on PC. thanks
i too usually take inspiration from parts of existing rockets, and specs of real engine or solid rocket motors. when building a rocket i usually ask myself "what payload do i need to lift or send? how big? how much heavy" and then i start building the very basic of rocket, tanks and engines, then add RCS control, retrorockets, pipes and some aesthetical features.
2.1 years ago@jrzspace yes, that is what i do usually, but using simple keywords with google can give a huge amount of results. thanks!
2.1 years ago@Xspacee ahaha that's nice
2.1 years ago@Xspacee i will for sure, but you'd better stop
2.1 years ago@TronicOrbital great thanks! I'm sorry but I've never put my mind in vizzy... I should start...
2.1 years agoHi! nice job. Are you mounting also small retrorockets for staging?
2.1 years agocontrols of 1st stage on gimbals? second stage on gimbals+rcs or just gimbals? i believe rcs on 2nd stage are usefull to reorient the stage for 2nd or 3rd burn.
@fall can you suggest me how?
2.1 years ago@fall but you have the hand brake that keeps the brake on. is there a way to have the same effect on those wheels? maybe also a vizzy line?
2.1 years agoI'm quite sure that there are lots of interesting posts and discussion in the past. Allowing to search could avoid unusefull question that sometimes remain unanswered... And could lead to a less messy forum
2.1 years agoIt would be nice a sort of electric motor performance analyzer, as for the rocket engines, but I don't know if it can be done
2.1 years ago@Dereric no, it is not possible to see energy consumption of wheel motors on PC.
2.1 years agoThat is why i was asking how to desume it
I could not understand where the error was, so i simply rebuilt the 2nd stage and everything runs smoothly
2.1 years agoit REALLY is epic.
2.1 years agocan't wait to try your next update!!
@HyperPatch in the meantime i figured out how to modify ATMO parameters so that your Earth atmosphere extend to 115 km with a realistic air density through layers
@Matteovir @pedro16797
2.1 years agosorry, i've seen the steam on launch pad is an already known bug.
@pedro16797
2.1 years agoHi and thanks for this awsome update!
i'm experiencing just this issue, that i don't know what it is related to.
as soon as i start a scenario with the rocket (even a stock rocket) sitting on the pad smoke starts pluming out from the pad the same as i was lifting off, but without any thrust or fuel consumption by the rocket. It seems like an animation related to the pad, that is starting by itself and mantaining...
do you have any idea?
thanks
@Kthepersonorguy
2.1 years agoWelcome! thanks for sharing your experience!
Something like the Ares 1, with a first solid rocket stage, and a second liquid fueled stage suited for human transportation would be fun to ride on
2.1 years ago@ALGEBRASpace
2.2 years agoit is a beahviour i experienced too when docking crafts and modules in orbit, mainly when docking two capsules. I have not figured out how to solve it, beacuse in the last period i focused on interplanetary probe exploration. I'll give it a try and see to come back with an answer.
@NovaAerospace
2.2 years agoThanks!
Nice review!, i agree with you in every aspect. I used to play at KSP, but i definitely prefer SR2 because it allows to reproduce reality and new things; and i love the graphics!
@SimpleEngineering
2.2 years agoit seems a very interesting project.
keep it up!!
@Insanity thanks for sharing your experience.
2.4 years agoI prefer the "real experience" Always using RSS by HyperPatch, with the RealFuelTanks mod and RealOverhaulEngine mod
@YaMomzBox420 just to clarify how i solved this old-but-not-too-much issue. I found that just increasing the thrust of my engine is not a good and realistic solution. I'm now using an Hydrolox engine similar to RL10c of Centaur upper stage, wich has just 110 Kn of thrust, but is very efficient and reliable. The solution is that you cannot rely at all on the auto-burn function, so i ended up with hand calculation. Divide the residual burn time of your stage/remaninig deltaV of your stage; then multiply the result * the DV required for the calculated burn. The result will be the total duration of your burn. Divide it /2 and the result is the distance in seconds from the node of the burn, and the moment to start your burn. it is very precise, even for long burns for Earth-Mars transer.
2.4 years ago