@QuantumSpaceIndustries yeah, his description is, and I quote:
“ I make crafts and planets and solar systems I update people's crafts Formally known as BMNK Now I'm BRI For short of BmnkRocketIndustries by the way My favorite animal The cat 🐈🐈??🐈??🐅🐆🐱🐯🦁 My honest reaction AWWWWWWWWWW! When I see a cat Note. People. That are blocked, I can upgrade my crafts MARS IS MY FAV PLANET the question mark are black cats JNO SUDE ADD RAY CRATERS COPY THES TO YOUR BIO IF YOU AGEE”
@deepfriedfrenchtoast after consulting your link, Wikipedia and ChatGPT, I reckon a full-flow cycle would be best for our purposes. Dual expanders tend to use hydro lox, but we use methalox for Neptune, though, on Nexus, which still runs on hydrolox, we’ll consider using a dual-expander cycle if it can still provide sufficient performance. It’s a great idea, and is simpler and easier to maintain, but FFSC is just better with methane, more scalable and is decently higher performance. In theory, we could afford to use DEC, we have enough performance, but it’s not as compatible and easy to work with as FFSC when it comes to methane. If you want, you can read this. (my ChatGPT conversation on the subject) It provides some interesting points and compelling arguments. https://chatgpt.com/c/ca7633b3-0612-43b9-bcdb-b50b7885340c
@deepfriedfrenchtoast I’ll do a lot more research on the carbon composite. Maybe we could reinforce it with something, but worst case, we can just make the engines out of a more heat (and cold) resistant alloy that is good under pressure, but I want to make most of the rocket carbon comp, cause it’s just so light and can be made cheaply and rapidly if done right.
I did a bit of a whoopsie. When I said the whole rocket would be regeneratively cooled, I meant only the Ferry and engines. We were never planning on regeneratively cooling the booster, but that’s my fault for not clarifying that 💀
The reason we went for regenerative cooling is because we can make the pipes out of carbon composite, so long as we don’t pump the prop through with too much pressure. We also picked it because it can be easily 3D printed with the vehicle with minimal parts and manual labour. A TUFROC heat shield would be somewhat impractical and require much more manual labour, we’ll do more research into metallic heat shields, they sound like they could be 3D printed on and require less replacements than TUFROC.
@deepfriedfrenchtoast thanks for the really detailed answer! I’ve been thinking a bit about the dual-expander, but haven’t got round to really cracking down and studying in-depth. Thanks for the link! However, due to the engines being rapidly 3D printed, we can hopefully make the cooling and plumbing work no problem, but I’ll keep studying and tweaking. I can’t believe I forgor about the XRS-2200, it was literally my desktop background for like, 4 months LMAO. Though the gas generator cycle Aerospikes pump a little bit of gas generator exhaust through holes in the wedge thing (for linear Aerospikes) or a small hole in the very tip of the spike (for toroidal Aerospikes), but with a full flow staged combustion cycle, I’m confident we can achieve ~1000kN ASL and ~1300 in Vac. I think we could make carbon comps work at cryogenic temps cause rocket lab has been able to, and using something similar, we could. For the high temperatures, the entire rocket, including the engines with have methalox pumped through its walls, actively and regeneratively cooling it. I could well be wrong, but worst case, we can just use something heavier and more heat-resistant for the engines, due to the rest of the rocket being lighter.
Oh, I’m doing a similar thing irl with @Microbe lol. Maybe our companies could cooperate? If you wanna chat, email me at rayne.murray93@gmail.com
P.S: on ur profile it says in ur past names “HorizonSpaceUK” do you also live in the UK? That could make collaboration very convenient :)
If you’re going to comment on this, remember that we are working towards this being real, so we can’t make it too unrealistic, and cost and complexity are important factors.
@LeMagicBaguette oh, I’ve tried several, including using .png, using different space patterns, even literally copy-pasting the code @Mostly put in the post formatting guide, still didn’t work
@deepfriedfrenchtoast k. I’ll load a Neptune with the vizzy and upload it to here as an unlisted post. (bear in mind the vizzy is really bad lol)
Edit: here’s the link: https://www.simplerockets.com/c/o3W0lJ/Neptune-Auto-Orbit-For-Deepfriedfrenchtoast-to-test
@CloakPin i’ve noticed that, and assumed that the number after the name was what vizzy meant by “craft id” but it’s different every time, so wouldn’t you have to re-type the craft ID after every flight?
@ExplorationAerospace LMAO 💀
9 months ago@ExplorationAerospace NOOOO NOT THE STIMULATOR
9 months ago@ExplorationAerospace NEVER! I WILL NEVER SURRENDER AHAHAHAHA cough cough ow
9 months ago@ExplorationAerospace real
9 months ago@Precetom huh?
9 months ago@Mostly lol, thanks :)
9 months ago@CloakPin oh god. We need a dad jokes section too, apparently XD
9 months ago@QuantumSpaceIndustries yeah, his description is, and I quote:
9 months ago“ I make crafts and planets and solar systems I update people's crafts Formally known as BMNK Now I'm BRI For short of BmnkRocketIndustries by the way My favorite animal The cat 🐈🐈??🐈??🐅🐆🐱🐯🦁 My honest reaction AWWWWWWWWWW! When I see a cat Note. People. That are blocked, I can upgrade my crafts MARS IS MY FAV PLANET the question mark are black cats JNO SUDE ADD RAY CRATERS COPY THES TO YOUR BIO IF YOU AGEE”
@deepfriedfrenchtoast after consulting your link, Wikipedia and ChatGPT, I reckon a full-flow cycle would be best for our purposes. Dual expanders tend to use hydro lox, but we use methalox for Neptune, though, on Nexus, which still runs on hydrolox, we’ll consider using a dual-expander cycle if it can still provide sufficient performance. It’s a great idea, and is simpler and easier to maintain, but FFSC is just better with methane, more scalable and is decently higher performance. In theory, we could afford to use DEC, we have enough performance, but it’s not as compatible and easy to work with as FFSC when it comes to methane. If you want, you can read this. (my ChatGPT conversation on the subject) It provides some interesting points and compelling arguments. https://chatgpt.com/c/ca7633b3-0612-43b9-bcdb-b50b7885340c
:)
9 months ago@Spaceman2004 fair lol
9 months ago@deepfriedfrenchtoast you’ve hooked me now lol, I’ll look into it a lot as soon as I can
9 months ago@deepfriedfrenchtoast I’ll do a lot more research on the carbon composite. Maybe we could reinforce it with something, but worst case, we can just make the engines out of a more heat (and cold) resistant alloy that is good under pressure, but I want to make most of the rocket carbon comp, cause it’s just so light and can be made cheaply and rapidly if done right.
I did a bit of a whoopsie. When I said the whole rocket would be regeneratively cooled, I meant only the Ferry and engines. We were never planning on regeneratively cooling the booster, but that’s my fault for not clarifying that 💀
The reason we went for regenerative cooling is because we can make the pipes out of carbon composite, so long as we don’t pump the prop through with too much pressure. We also picked it because it can be easily 3D printed with the vehicle with minimal parts and manual labour. A TUFROC heat shield would be somewhat impractical and require much more manual labour, we’ll do more research into metallic heat shields, they sound like they could be 3D printed on and require less replacements than TUFROC.
9 months ago@OrbispaceSystems amazing!
9 months ago@deepfriedfrenchtoast thanks for the really detailed answer! I’ve been thinking a bit about the dual-expander, but haven’t got round to really cracking down and studying in-depth. Thanks for the link! However, due to the engines being rapidly 3D printed, we can hopefully make the cooling and plumbing work no problem, but I’ll keep studying and tweaking. I can’t believe I forgor about the XRS-2200, it was literally my desktop background for like, 4 months LMAO. Though the gas generator cycle Aerospikes pump a little bit of gas generator exhaust through holes in the wedge thing (for linear Aerospikes) or a small hole in the very tip of the spike (for toroidal Aerospikes), but with a full flow staged combustion cycle, I’m confident we can achieve ~1000kN ASL and ~1300 in Vac. I think we could make carbon comps work at cryogenic temps cause rocket lab has been able to, and using something similar, we could. For the high temperatures, the entire rocket, including the engines with have methalox pumped through its walls, actively and regeneratively cooling it. I could well be wrong, but worst case, we can just use something heavier and more heat-resistant for the engines, due to the rest of the rocket being lighter.
9 months ago@4di UwU
9 months agoOh, I’m doing a similar thing irl with @Microbe lol. Maybe our companies could cooperate? If you wanna chat, email me at rayne.murray93@gmail.com
9 months agoP.S: on ur profile it says in ur past names “HorizonSpaceUK” do you also live in the UK? That could make collaboration very convenient :)
If you’re going to comment on this, remember that we are working towards this being real, so we can’t make it too unrealistic, and cost and complexity are important factors.
9 months ago@HorizonsTechnologies yeh, lol, but I can’t help thinking
9 months ago2 is good :D
9 months ago@LeMagicBaguette oh, I’ve tried several, including using .png, using different space patterns, even literally copy-pasting the code @Mostly put in the post formatting guide, still didn’t work
9 months ago@TomKerbal thanks :)
9 months ago@LeMagicBaguette I also tried making a basic forum post and it didn’t work
9 months ago@LeMagicBaguette I’ve tried several different versions, but still can’t do it :(
9 months agoTest:
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9 months ago@QuantumSpaceIndustries valid lol
9 months ago@LeMagicBaguette thanks :)
9 months agoYou’re right, I’ll always be a villain REEEHEHEHEHEHEHEEE
9 months ago@SaturnaAerospace yeah, it’s a nightmare
9 months ago@deepfriedfrenchtoast k. I’ll load a Neptune with the vizzy and upload it to here as an unlisted post. (bear in mind the vizzy is really bad lol)
9 months agoEdit: here’s the link: https://www.simplerockets.com/c/o3W0lJ/Neptune-Auto-Orbit-For-Deepfriedfrenchtoast-to-test
I’m happy to answer any questions. Just reply to this comment and I’ll do my best to answer them.
9 months agoMfw i don’t have discord ‘cause i don’t want the social responsibility of having to talk to that many ppl at once
9 months ago@deepfriedfrenchtoast yeah, so you’d need to change the vizzy after every damn flight T-T
9 months ago@CloakPin i’ve noticed that, and assumed that the number after the name was what vizzy meant by “craft id” but it’s different every time, so wouldn’t you have to re-type the craft ID after every flight?
9 months ago@Toinkove k, thanks! :)
9 months ago@Toinkove oh, I play on an iPad so i can’t download Vizzy++, but thanks anyway <3
9 months ago@Isosceles51 fr lol
9 months agoOh my god i need an S-IC mug. Also, Summer hot choc gang! Is just yummy :3
9 months ago@SupremeDorian ty lol
9 months agoHow…?
9 months ago@Kosmos419 ty :)
10 months ago@ChaoticGraviton thanks :)
10 months ago@ChaoticGraviton oh i didn’t know! How?
10 months ago